After a ship load of reading and asking advice from people I've come out learning more and also ending up more confused than before..
But, I need some advice on building a high revving powerful v8 with a budget constraint. Not big power but decent to make a 12s pass and hit 7000rpmBackground
I have a 351C 2v with open chamber heads mated to a F250. It was rebuilt by the previous owner. Not much is known about the rebuild but I'm guessing a piston, bearing, gasket, oil pump, timing chain kit or just a piston bearing kit.
I have this engine mated to a T5 that had 'windened gears' im taking it as he dovetailed the gears to mesh better?
Anyway, I've been told that a T5 is not strong enough for a Cleveland, bare in mind its a stock 2v currently so it is still fine. But, I was given many alternatives, Rebuilt C4 or C6 box, Cressida M58 box, Toploader T4 and FMX Box. I also have a C4 which hasn't been rebuilt and a Toploader T4 mated to my Fairlane 289.
I may restore the F250 but I may part it to cover costs of the engine build as the license is behind. So the Cleveland is not necessarily for the F250. I'd like to build it to mate to a lighter body car, maybe a Cortina or Grenada, Capri, or Fairmont, whatever will be easiest and most cost effective still being respectable.
Which leads me to my question
How quick can you go with a Cleveland build at what cost vs a windsor build, is there any apparent improvement in the Cleveland's power output that makes it worth it..
Considering the wealth of Windsor aftermarket parts including aluminium cylinder heads that come with an adjustable valve-train etc vs spending the money on machining Cleveland heads as well as the overall saving in costs of a Windsor build
Please share your knowledge if you've built a 351C
1. 2v or 4v
2. Intended use of engine and chassis that it was mated to
3. Modifications done
4. Total spent
5. Dyno results or estimated HP/KW
6. Overall satisfaction with the build
I'm trying to weigh up the costs vs benefits of building a 302-331-347 stroker vs 351c 2v N/A or forced induction vs 351c 4v N/A
Im also a big fan of a 351C 4v hitting 7000rpm since I watched a video on YouTube and its been my goal to achieve that ever since..
I've got great advice so far from Rassie about the 2v being a killer off the line but losing steam at higher revs whereas the 4v making up for the lower end bog and coming in strong around 4000rpm. I would be interested to see some Dyno figures though if anyone can share that or even just personal experience with a Cleveland.
I haven't had a chance to draft this on pen and paper to really consider whether this is an achievable option for me or not
I know the phrase goes: Q how fast do you want to go? A How much are you willing to spend
So to put a limit on it.. if it can smoke the wheels until 3rd gear, hit 7000rpm without breaking, and do a 1/4 mile around or under 12s, that would tickle my fancy
Not that the two can be compared but a VW 20v can meet these goals above, well for much cheaper but it wont give me the same satisfaction as a v8 would
I am a Classic Car and v8 enthusiast but I would also like to be practical before I go into a build blindly
Thanks for your input!